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Dear Lord, what have Christians come to?

I've recently had the misfortune of stumbling across Conservapedia.com: a fundamental Christian website, claiming to be "the trustworthy encyclopedia".  It offers information on all manner of hot topics related preserving the truth of Christianity, such as how the NIV Bible was written to support abortion, how college professors support bestiality, that pursuing a career in the arts is unhealthy, and that the story of the adulteress in John 8 is fabricated to support a liberal agenda.

Wait, what?

As a Christian myself, this sort of wacko far-right propaganda brings me no end of embarrassment.  I could spend years tearing apart nearly every single article on this site, but fortunately, I have a life and will likely only pick one or two to dissect.

However, there was on article that irritated me more than all the rest; it irritated me even more than the articles trying to suggest that a large percentage of all murders are committed by homosexuals.  It was an article devoted to dismantling the Theory of Relativity.

conservapedia.com/Counterexamp…

Attacks on Evolution are frustrating enough, but when I saw this, I could hardly believe my eyes.  My first question was "why?"  Why would they feel the need to attack a theory that in no way contradicts the principles of their religion or the words of the Bible?  Reading the article offered little insight.  Their only Biblical argument against it seemed to be that Jesus' miracles must contradict the Theory of Relativity because he was able to perform instantaneous actions at a distance (specifically healing a man's son, a Samaritan woman's daughter, and a centurion's servant from a distance, as well as the veil in the temple tearing when Jesus died.)

I hope I don't need to explain why this is stupid, but I will do so anyway, just in case.  First, assuming that miracles are confined to moving at the speed of light, (I never thought I'd have to say something like that) any time-lag between Jesus' words being spoken and the deed being done would be so infinitesimal that it would be undetectable by human perception.  Since the ancient Jews and Romans didn't wear wrist-watches, even a miracle traveling at the speed of sound or even just the speed of a bullet train would still be assumed to be instantaneous since there would be no way to confirm the exact moment that the person was healed.

Secondly, assuming that Jesus was, in fact, God, the Creator, why would bending the laws of Physics be any sort of obstacle for him?  I certainly don't see water turning into wine every day, nor do I routinely observe loaves and fishes multiplying before my eyes.  That's the point of a miracle.  It's supernatural!  That means it defies nature.  Why on earth would Christians assume that a supernatural observation disproves a natural law?

So that leaves me with the question unanswered: why are these fundamental, conservative Christians so determined to see Einstein proven wrong?  The only answer I can figure is simply that Relativity was created by Science and therefore must be the enemy of Faith.  That is just sad.

If you do believe in a Creator of nature, then you must believe that nature offers proof of his existence, as the Bible declares.  Religious fanatics who blind themselves to the real world in hopes of preserving their ideals are pathetically missing out on the truth.  The world was created to be explored and understood.  The more we search, the deeper the mysteries we find.  Yes, many physicists will agree that General Relativity is possibly incomplete, much like Newton's original theories were incomplete.  Does that mean Newton's Laws no longer apply?  Certainly not!  They simply must be modified under certain circumstances.  Relativity was the next, deeper truth and I can't wait to find an even deeper truth underneath that.  That is no threat to my Faith.  If the Christians of Conservapedia find reality so threatening to their beliefs, then I wonder how they can trust a God who constructs a reality intended only to deceive.

Thank you very much, Conservapedia, but I'll put my faith in my God and the beautiful universe he created before I put my faith in your "trustworthy encyclopedia."
I wrote this a while back, but it's still relevant. Please keep debates civil, if necessary.
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anoncru Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013
You would think that someone would use science to support their beliefs, not use their beliefs to destroy science.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013
You would think, but not everyone thinks.
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anoncru Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013
"but not everyone thinks." I'm going to use that one.
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UncleRice Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The theory of relativity has nothing to do with the Bible, and appearantly these people don't have anything to do with the Bible either. It's like they are an evolutionist's best friends.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013
Of course it doesn't, but unfortunately some Christians have decided that Christian=anti-science.
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013
Conservapedia is, basically, insanity. Half their staff are conservatives that would make tea partiers look like radical liberals, and the other half is liberal trolls editing for the lulz. Don't take them seriously- nobody else does. They're like the WBC.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013
Haha yes, but sadly the whole "relativity is wrong because it is an evil liberal plot" is actually real.  I know at least one person who believes it and probably teaches it to kids.  o__o
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013
These people are out to rewrite the bible so that it is less liberal, and replace Newtonian physics. They are so out of touch with reality that bashing them is kind of redundant.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013
I disagree.  I think it's important for people to know that these ideas are still alive and well out there... maybe not in your subculture, but they were in mine, so it is important to me.
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013
Yes, I agree. We do already have plenty of that covered in exposition of republicans and tea party conservatives as well, and they pose a much more imminent threat. Conservapedia is an insane place where conservatives too insane for normal conservatives go, and I think they are harmless compared to, say, a creationist misgynyst senator.
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fredrikslicer Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013
Had it not been christmas this would've made me very bitter. Seriously these are the things that made me leave the faith.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013
Yeah, I don't blame ya.
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GuineaPigDan Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2013   Filmographer
Yeah, Conservapedia is pretty messed up. But on the other hand, a lot of editors there are parodists in disguise so for all we know, the people that wrote that anti-relativity article could just be jokesters making stuff up to make the website look even worse than it already is. But if the people that wrote that article ARE serious, I wonder how they would explain how GPSs and airplane navigation work without relativity. www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~… Are GPSs guided by angels or something?
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013
Haha they might be!  I'd like to believe they are parodists, but I have former friends that actually believe this shit (that relativity is a man-made idea meant to promote moral relativism...) so yeah.  I fear it might be real.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I go to a religious university.  I'm so glad to be a Latter Day Saint.  We discuss the differences between science and religion, and how they do not even touch each other.  They even teach evolution there.  OH NOES!  EVILUTION!
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013
OH THE HORRORS!  Hang on, I need that swooning couch again!  Damn you!

What are you studying, by the way?
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I recently changed my major from computer science to web design.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013
Cool.  How long 'til you're done?
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't know, it's a four year degree, give or take a semester.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013
Well, good luck!  I'm currently getting ready to apply to grad-schools again, this time for my PhD program.  Whew... I'm not 100% sure if I'm ready to go back after 6 years of school already.
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WalpurgisAk Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2013
Have you heard of [link] ?
It has a large section devoted to rebutting conservapedia.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013
Yes I have, although I've never spent much time looking through it. I'm sure conservapedia doesn't have a chance.
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WalpurgisAk Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013
ehehehe nope
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dadona777 Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2013
Conservapedia.com
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2013
Heheh... Yeah, it's a pretty pathetic site. But I can't ignore things like this because I know people who think this way. I grew up with them! It's scary, and a lot of people say "ignore that; no one really thinks like that" but people DO think like that. I was raised to think like that. And it dismays me.
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dadona777 Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2013
my dad thinks like that too

this week I asked him where chickens come from (what continent) and he said THE MIDDLE EAST EVERYTHING COMES FROM THERE BECAUSE NOAH AND THE FLOOD
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2013
*sigh* Yeah. I used to believe that too, but then I went to college and was like "oh. ... well that was silly." What scares me more is the amount of anti-gay propaganda there, and even people revising the scriptures to try to fit a more hateful doctrine. Ick!
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dadona777 Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013
conservapedia has a bunch of poisonous crap about "reparative therapy" too
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013
Ugh, I bet they do. I'm scared to even look.
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dadona777 Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2013
they think it is real and called every study against it "libural denial"
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2013
*snort* Ugh, I had a "friend" who was trying to defend this therapy to me. Two, actually. I shot them down pretty hard. Neither of them were willing to admit they were wrong, though, but one admitted that it might not be the best path for most people, and the other said "let me get back to you on that" and never did.
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Levitating-Narwhal Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That site makes me laugh, facepalm, headdesk, tableflip, and lightly bang my fist on the desk in frustration all at the same time.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Heheheh, yeah, it has about the same effect on me. People keep telling me "ignore it... no one actually thinks like that; it's probably mostly trolls anyway" but I KNOW people that probably think like that and it's scary.
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Levitating-Narwhal Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Indeed. People DO think like that and are part of the reason we aren't getting any farther as an intellegent species. I know someone who has the saying "Stupid people shouldn't BREED." as a keychain.
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monkeybull779 Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013
Fundamentalist Christian wackos are part of the reason I left Christianity. I really don't want to be associated with those nut jobs. Sometimes, I enjoy laughing at their stupidity, is that wrong at all?
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Yeah, I've considered leaving the faith just for that reason, but decided to (at least for now) stick with it and just dissociate myself with morons like this. It is fun to laugh at them, but sometimes it scares me too.
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monkeybull779 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
one of the other main reasons was i didn't want to feel obligated to put a man who lived 2000 years ago higher than anything in my life on my priorities list. and to feel obligated to believe a 5000-2000 year old book when almost every "miracle" or supernatural "act of God" has been dis proven by science as a natural occurrence.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
I find the Bible fascinating and to have some useful things in it, but I am far from believing it to be the "inerrant word of God" as I was taught. That simply makes no sense and I've come to realize that there's not even any good reason to believe that except for the pathological need to be right. People don't want to have to question or shape their beliefs dynamically. They want everything to be black and white and clearly organized. That's why they believe the Bible is inerrant... not because there's really any good reason to.
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monkeybull779 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
i agree. the things i took away from christianity, were the lessons that jesus tried to teach with some of his parables. and also commandments 5-10. pretty much the lessons pertaining to not being a dick to others.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
Those are good things to take to heart, regardless of a person's religious or non-religious views. =)
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AClockworkKitten Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Nope.
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monkeybull779 Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
thank you for that, just making sure im not alone
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AClockworkKitten Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I don't care much for the fundies, but I just roll with it and try to be my own person anyway.
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llirbwerdnadivad Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
Been a while since I've seen your account!

I was wandering DeviantArt again, found some stamps, which led to more stamps, which led to religion, which led here.

Gotta say, I'm surprised that there is an entire website about this, but I suppose I'm also surprised that I'm surprised. There technically isn't anything wrong with this, but I still wonder why some people behave in this way...
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013
Haha I really have no clue. Some people are determined to stay in the dark ages. Glad to see you again, dude!
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llirbwerdnadivad Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
Well, to each their own...

And same to you! How have you been?
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
I'm quite well at the moment. Just had an interview for a job that went really well so I am hopeful that I might have better employment soon.
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Oswulf Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Student General Artist
I know it's tempting to follow irritation to the source, like flies near a lantern, but we really ought not to. It invites bad spirits, you know. Anyway, interesting thoughts, thank you for sharing.

Gott mit dir,
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AClockworkKitten Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
God made science! Just because it didn't happen exactly the way it was described in the Bible doesn't mean that He had nothing to do with it.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013
Indeed. I feel like that oughtn't be such a hard concept for conservative Christians to grasp. Even if you believe that the Bible is perfect, consider: how on earth would God explain the concept of Evolution, natural selection, universe expansion, etc to people thousands of years ago? Obviously there would have to be a compromise of truth with things that people could understand.
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