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To anyone who wants to claim that 'reparative' therapy (to convert homosexuals to heterosexuals) should be legal for minors:  at least be honest about what you support.
  • Systematically dehumanizing patients by telling them that they are dirty, broken, and shameful.  Verbal abuse is a central part of the therapy.
  • Isolating patients from their friends and family and removing any methods of contact like phones and computers.  Only approved people are allowed to be contacted at all.  Phone calls are often monitered by therapists, violating any hope of privacy.  Letters are read before being sent and, if the counselor does not approve of the content, they are discarded.
  • Coercing frequent confessions from the patients about how they are sinful or worthless.  Often privileges like the ability to contact family or leave the facility are withheld until the counselor feels the patient expresses enough self-loathing.  Sometimes the patients are required to give these confessions to their family at the beginning of a phone call in order to speak to them at all.
  • Heaping guilt on parents by blaming a gay child on faulty parenting.
  • Telling the patient that God hates and rejects them and that, if they still have homosexual feelings, it is because they don't want to change badly enough.
  • Forbidding patients to engage in activities and hobbies that they enjoy if they are deemed not "masculine" or "feminine" enough.  Males are often restricted from music, art, literature, and theatre.  Females are restricted from sports or other physically intensive activities.  These rules are enforced regardless of the detriment to the patient's future in his/her discipline.
  • Lying about the nature of homosexuality in order to terrify patients into silence on their sexuality.  Ex-gay ministries have been known to conjur up such monumental lies as "all gays have AIDS and are going to die" and "the government will kill you if they find out you are gay."  These lies are told in order to exert control over the patient through fear.
  • Inflicting physical abuse in order to condition gays to fear contact from the same sex.  This abuse includes placing ice or hot coils on the subject's hands while showing images of any same-sex contact or delivering electric shocks when homoerotic images are shown.  Sometimes the subject is told to deliver the shock to themselves whenever they see an image that is "sinful".  If the subject refuses, the button is pushed for them.  Some former patients report feeling ghost pains for the rest of their lives whenever they are touched.
  • "Touch" therapy, which is based on the mistaken assumption that boys experience homosexual feelings because of a lack of fatherly affection.  An older man requires the boy to sit between his legs and he then hugs and fondles the boy repeatedly in order to accustom him to contact from a father-like male figure.
  • Requiring boys to display themselves naked to their counselors and touch their genitals repeatedly to get "in touch" with their masculinity.
  • Telling patients that all homosexuals live short, lonely, and miserable lives and that the only path to fulfillment is through abusive and expensive therapy.

Does this sound like the love of God to you?  Does this sound like the path salvation to you?

REPARATIVE THERAPY IS ABUSE.  CHILD ABUSE IS CRIMINAL.  REPARATIVE THERAPY FOR CHILDREN SHOULD BE CRIMINAL.

SPREAD THE WORD.
I've been doing a little bit of research on "conversion" or "reparative" therapy lately. There are some really heartbreaking stories out there. I feel like this needs to be said, especially to those people I know who oppose the California ban on conversion therapy for minors.

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I've gotten enough requests for references that I decided to track down a bunch of my sources and put them here. Some of them are not available on the internet, of course, but I think this should give you a good idea of some of the sick shit that's out there.

[link] -physical torture
[link] -excerpts from a documentary on BYU torture therapy scandal
[link] -rubber band and ammonia pill therapy
[link] -isolation and shaming
[link] -restriction and intimidation
[link] -touch therapy and shaming
[link] -touch therapy leads to sexual assault
[link] -undressing as therapy
[link] - isolation and despair
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:iconrotogonz:
RotogonZ Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2014
THANK YOU
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No15-Nathax Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
As a christian, hearing things like this makes me so angery that these people waltz around spreading their hate, AND HAVE THE NERVE TO SAY THEY FOLLOW GOD!?!
It doesn't matter what someone has done, nobody has the right to tell somebody else that God hates them, for the ONLY things that can be said for sure that God hates is 1.sin, because it keeps us from him & 2. The devil, because he uses it to lead us astray.
It's one thing to teach from the Bible, and let people know that something is wrong in an advisery way- like how you'd tell somebody that you should look both ways before crossing the street.
But I could never condone hate from either side, becouse hate can only seperate us, and fester the wounds in our hearts. 
Nobody can ever force another to change, in order for change to occur YOU have to be the one who wants it. As somebody who has chosen that road, I can tell you that it isn't easy, but anything worth doing wont be. I think people should just be allowed to live their lives without anyone forcing their opinions on others.
This goes to those who say that change isn't possible too. By telling people that they have no control over their own selves like that I believe can make a person feel just as trapped as if they were stuck in one of those camps.
It's hysterical how they go around saying that they're SO open-minded, but if someone even suggests that gays can change they get the third degree!?! If somebody is truely open-minded then they'd have to be willing to listen especially to someone they disagree with.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013
I suspect that there are probably some people who have changed their orientations (or at least shifted from gay-leaning bi to straight-leaning bi, if nothing else).  However, medical science tells us that these people are enormously in the minority.  It also tells us that attempts to do this are largely very unhealthy and dangerous.  Thus, although I would not claim that a gay person can never change, I would NEVER advise anyone to try it.  If someone chooses to do so anyway, though, there is nothing I can do to stop them.  There are plenty of unhealthy and unnecessary procedures that people go through and it is not my place to tell them that they can't do it.  For some of them, I imagine the change or suppression of their orientation is a relief.  However, we must recognize that the majority of these people are harmed by such attempts.  This is what this piece is about.  I do not want to make generalizations; all I can say with certainty is that the majority of people who try to change their orientation are unsuccessful and are harmed by it.  I choose not to change, after a couple of years of trying.  I am much happier for it!
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attila-the-honeypie Featured By Owner May 27, 2013
It's sick... And it really happens too. A friend of mine's cousin was sent, and I can only pray that he has the strength to make it through alright...

Attila
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner May 28, 2013
I hope he was sent to a less-extreme camp. I'm wishing for the best. Please do what you can to support him through this, and he's always welcome to write to me as well if he needs anything.
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dadona777 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013
my dad seems to think so :dummy:
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2013
If anyone reads through this article and looks through the references I have and still supports reparative therapy, they are horrible people. I'm not usually one to pass judgments like that, but I don't care how much they give to charity or how many good deeds they do for neighbors or how many kids they adopt. If they believe it is acceptable to put a child at risk of this kind of torture for ANY reason, they are horrible people and they should be ashamed. A lot of people are just ignorant about the potential damage that this therapy can do. Other people actually voluntarily undergo this therapy because they've been so beaten down and rejected by society/church/family that they honestly think it's the best option. The therapy business thrives on the money that they can charge these broken people. That's why I am trying to spread their lies as far as possible. Thanks for reading, and if your dad reads this and watches those videos and still thinks RT is good, he can go fuck himself. You can tell him I said that lol.
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dadona777 Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2013
I've told my dad about the harm RT can cause, but he insisted that personal accounts and the word of most major psychological organizations are not good enough because they are "biased" toward gay people. the only thing that started to make him think was the fact that one organization (EI in particular) admitted change is not possible through therapy, but he soon afterward continued to blame the victim
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2013
Ugh. I've known people like that, who just shut down when you present them with evidence and insist "that's all just biased. I am obviously right because I know I am." It's pathetic and dangerous.
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dadona777 Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2013
he told me if he'd seen the "signs" beforehand then he would have put me in therapy
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2013
I'm glad he didn't see them then. I suspect that my family would have put me in therapy if they had known, but I didn't even know back when I was still living at home, haha! I'm a late bloomer, I guess.

But it just goes to show that people shouldn't pressure teens to "come out" until they are in a situation where they can be sure of being safe. I am so glad that I was independent when I came out. Spending a couple of months with my family almost killed me. I can't imagine if I had been forced to live with them for years.
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dadona777 Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2013
I never actually came out to my parents. my dad sort of found out but I'm not sure how
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2013
Yeah, my parents found out by accident as well. That sucked. I'm glad you're confident enough in yourself that you stand up for who you are.
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Levitating-Narwhal Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Student General Artist
Does anybody have a thermonuclear warhead handy? Anybody? No? Fine. I guess we just need to BUILD one! Anybody have some uranium? Nobody? Really? Guess we have to sart from scratch.....
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
Haha, actually Uranium isn't all that hard to acquire, but refining it down into the right isotope is absurdly difficult. Bummer.
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Levitating-Narwhal Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Student General Artist
Well, I don't know what country you live in (keep forgetting to look) but getting uranium in the US in any semi-lagal fashion will put you on a government watch list.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
I'm also in the US. I think there are still areas here where they do uranium mining. And there's uranium in a lot of rocks, especially around Nevada, New Mexico and Arizona. If you could detect it and pick up some, I don't think anyone would know. You wouldn't have a lot though.
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Levitating-Narwhal Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Student General Artist
Ah, yes. I keep forgetting it comes from the ground, like a drep. :iconherpderpplz: It would probably take a while to get enough for a thermonuclear warhead, though. But, how should I know. I'm not very well versed in such subjects. OMFG the way I type makes me look like a prude. XD
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Nerwen20 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
"Does this sound like the love of God to you?"

No. It sounds like a bunch of clinically insane nutters trying to force their twisted notions onto others. <3
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
Agreed.
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SouOfAnAngel Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Student Interface Designer
fairness for gays HAS to come true on! i mean it took forever fotr people to except blacks but eventualy it happened!
keep ur head up!!!
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012
I will keep hoping!
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SouOfAnAngel Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Student Interface Designer
:) good! me too
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
The raw truth. Thank you for posting yet another informative piece. Keep 'em coming!
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
I will try! Thank you for your support!
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
No problem!
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OokamiSann Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I am absolutely horrified by this. I cannot believe, that in this day and age we still face atrocious things like this in our country. This literally makes me sick to my stomach.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012
Yeah... did you watch any of the videos? It is sickening and made me feel shaky all over. I'm glad that we're working to get rid of these dangerous and unprofessional practices.
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OokamiSann Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I couldn't bring myself to watch the videos, no. I would probably end up in a similar state as you if I did. I'm glad we are too, though it amazes me they exist in the first place.
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bunocerous Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
THank you so much for this- there is so much misinformation out there, and this spells it out to a level that can't be explained away.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012
You are welcome. I just want people who support this to be without excuse. If we allow this therapy to continue to be legal, these sorts of abuses WILL happen.
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Argentum-Lupae-Luna Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That is absolutely sickening. That kind of thing should be stopped, because it's a blatant abuse of human rights. No one should have to be put through that kind of torment over something they can't control. I'm an atheist myself, but I have religious friends who have been persecuted for their differences. Religious dogma is not an excuse for ruining the mental, emotional, and physical well-being of youths. Nor is an excuse to funnel homophobia. The only real results of that kind of "therapy" is forms of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, lowered self-esteem, and scars that will remain in the psyche for the remainder of their lives.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012
Exactly so! This therapy has been roundly criticized by every credible medical organization as ineffective and harmful. Even if a person truly believes that people need to be cured of their homosexuality, they should realize that this is NOT working.
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Argentum-Lupae-Luna Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
My sentiments exactly. My relative tried to recommend it to my mum when I came out as a bisexual, and I was horrified that she actually believed that shite. Mum said no, of course. But it's inhumane, and it's wrong; basically, they manipulate the fear of persecution, hell, and such to steal people's money, torture them, and wreck their sense of self-esteem. I really don't see how it was ever legalized.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012
It was never legalized: it just happened. It's time to make it illegal.
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Argentum-Lupae-Luna Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Yes! It really should be a crime!
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Rhi-Raven97 Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I actually keep up with the news on [link] and recognize a lot of these sources. not only are the stories terrifying but heartbreaking. i live in a politically and socially conservative bible thumping area and the views these "therapists" have are not only even more extreme and hateful than the adults and kids i've watched gay bash in my town, but they are also scientifically unsound. any psychiatrist will tell you you don't go into a session with a diagnosis and treatment plan already decided on. you have to fit the treatment to the individual. so, not only are they not treating an actual psychological disorder as stated by the American Psychological Association, but they're using biased and utterly ineffective and wrong methods. you're writing is an excellent summary of some of the results of this kind of therapy. god knows what else these "patients" go through daily...
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012
It is terribly sad. Even the much less extreme therapists still generally verbally abuse and dehumanize their patients by telling them that they are broken and of lesser worth than other people. Furthermore, almost every patient falls into depression because the treatment DOESN'T WORK and they are told that it's their fault for "not wanting it bad enough". No wonder suicide rate after these programs is hugely elevated.
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Rhi-Raven97 Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
it makes me wonder what the subconscious motives behind the people who choose to put others through this are... if it's an extremely effective way of getting homosexuals to kill themselves, it seems almost like a conspiracy. both are considered a sin right? and every powerful group needs a minority to dehumanize to stay in power. i know that sounds crazy but... nowhere near as insane as some of the things that actually get said by religious officials
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2012
Haha yes, our religious leaders are sometimes crazy as fuck. I'm not sure that it's a conspiracy to kill (although I wouldn't be surprised if there were some individuals in the program who want to kill their patients) but over-all I do think it's just a matter of de-humanization. These people forget that they're dealing with human beings... they are just dealing with this disgusting, perverted sinner. That leaves them feeling clean of conscience when they do horrible things.
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battlebrothertherix Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I'm straight and atheist, but honestly I don't care about someone's sexuality. Since I'm straight, my female partner is also, but of all the sexualities (bi, homo, heterosexual, asexual, etc.), I don't really care which way other people swing. Provided they don't try and make me do something I don't want to, people can love whoever the hell they want.

Most of the theists that do the things that you've said above only do that because they want to, then claim they're doing god's work as an alibi. It's a sad truth that some religious people are only religious because they want to use the excuse 'god told me to' or 'my religions needs me to' to get out of solving their own problems.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012
Yeah, I think many people find religion a convenient excuse to oppress someone else. I'm sure a lot of these people honestly think they're doing the right thing, but only because they view gay people as sub-human.
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battlebrothertherix Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
There are also those few who literally just join a religion so they can be dicks and blame it on god.
Thankfully, the ones I know aren't like that.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012
Yeah. Most of the religious people I know honestly mean well. They just... fail at it haha!
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battlebrothertherix Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I know a couple of religious people, both on speaking terms with them, one of them is one of my best friends. Though if I look at it, if he was one step either way in his religion he and I would absolutely hate each other.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012
I'm a pretty chill person, but I don't like ugly people. If you use your religion (or lack thereof) as an excuse to be an ugly person, I don't tolerate it. That's how simple it is.
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battlebrothertherix Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I don't like idiots, intolerants, that sort of thing.
The thing is with being 'ugly' is that both you can't help it and it's a subjective term. Ugly for someone might not be the same 'ugly' for you.
I don't see how you can use your religion as an excuse to be ugly, to use the term.
You can try to use religion to justify being a twat (though it just proves it) but I don't see how it works as an excuse for being anything.

Honestly, I can't remember the last time I used the word 'ugly' because it's such a vague term.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012
... by ugly I mean an ugly personality, not a physical appearance; that would be absurd. You can certainly help having an ugly personality.
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Zigfreya Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I would want a mass of references to believe this.

Other than that, if it's true, then it really should be spread,
at least to the ppl that might end up in those situations if they don't know about this.
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EternalGeekExposed Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2012
Added a list of references.
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